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redvictor



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:05 pm    Post subject: Pantera EFI Reply with quote

Are you still around Lance? I've hooked up with Shane T and he said you had a coil set up that we could use for our new project.
It's a 3000hp twin turbo 540ci Chevy on methanol.
Are you interested?
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Pantera EFI



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:15 am    Post subject: IGN-1A , Andy Reply with quote

Hi Andy, good to here from you.

You are in good hands with Shane, he knows how to get the most energy out of ignition systems.
The IGN-1A coil can "hold" 25 AMPS of ignition energy, feed them with large wires.
The spark plug boot needs to seal well, completely to the "steel" of the plug. (with Silicon grease)

I hope you will fit a 60-2 crankshaft Target Wheel for accuracy.

Lance
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redvictor



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: IGN-1A , Andy Reply with quote

Pantera EFI wrote:
Hi Andy, good to here from you.

You are in good hands with Shane, he knows how to get the most energy out of ignition systems.
The IGN-1A coil can "hold" 25 AMPS of ignition energy, feed them with large wires.
The spark plug boot needs to seal well, completely to the "steel" of the plug. (with Silicon grease)

I hope you will fit a 60-2 crankshaft Target Wheel for accuracy.

Lance

ah,you are. That is good news.
So you can supply us with coils to do the job then? Are they CNP like an LS2 coil? Have you got a picture? 25 amps? That is plenty enough to get the job done..
How much and when can you get them to Shane? Can you liase with him on the best way of wiring/setting up? or can you tell me and i'll relay it on.
We are using a 60-2 wheel and will be using Firecore custom wires.
I did send you a mail but perhaps you didn't get it.
If you mail me on redvictor1@hotmail.com then we can communicate.
btw,this is how the new car will look..

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Pantera EFI



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: Shane T. OR his Father Reply with quote

Yes Andy, Shane or his father are regular visitors at the Pantera EFI shop.

Yes, I have provided the information to Shane in the past, and will again.

The "weekend" is now, I will send your reply Monday
A this time you may visit the 034motorsport.com site for instant information about the IGN-1A coil.

Your pictured car should go into the 6.xx's.

Lance
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redvictor



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: Shane T. OR his Father Reply with quote

Pantera EFI wrote:
Yes Andy, Shane or his father are regular visitors at the Pantera EFI shop.

Yes, I have provided the information to Shane in the past, and will again.

The "weekend" is now, I will send your reply Monday
A this time you may visit the 034motorsport.com site for instant information about the IGN-1A coil.

Your pictured car should go into the 6.xx's.

Lance

Ah ok,so we're all set then..
I'm amazed that with the spark energy available in your coils that more high end people aren't using them.. We're also using the ID2000 injectors which Shane knows well btw.
I'll look forward to your reply on Monday.
I have looked at the coil on that site. It looks like the Yukon type coil on the outside,and no doubt they're completely different on the inside.
I'll be disappointed if the car doesn't run deep 6's,that old car of mine ran 7.4 at 197mph at 800lbs more weight and 650hp less on petrol..lol
Shane is deeply involved in the project which means we're looking good.
It would be good to have you on board also..
Have a great weekend,
ANDY.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Lance,Shane says he's spoken to you.I need you to contact me. Or is it better for me to call you?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been a while, but just an update from my last post in 2012 for you Lance.
We still use the coils and they still work like a charm! No problems whatsoever with them. I even bought a spare set,but haven't needed to use one yet.

We run them at 3ms at idle ramping up to 8ms at full boost. No misfires even at full boost on methanol.
So far we've run 6.49 @ 226mph, still street legal, but running on slicks/meth.

Car turned out not too bad either imo..


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:52 am    Post subject: Good News IGN-1A Reply with quote

Hi Andy, good work AND you are having FUN.

I have a new coil, actually FOUR IGN-1's in a "quad" package.

I was able to lower the cost using one die size for four coils.

Thanks for your report,

Lance
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: Good News IGN-1A Reply with quote

Pantera EFI wrote:
Hi Andy, good work AND you are having FUN.

I have a new coil, actually FOUR IGN-1's in a "quad" package.

I was able to lower the cost using one die size for four coils.

Thanks for your report,

Lance

I am so far anyway.. And no problem letting the world know how good the coils are.

Got any pics and dimensions for your new coils?

I'd also like to put some Pantera EFI stickers on the coils themselves. Do you have little ones to stick on them? I get people asking who's coils they are..
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: IGN-1A , Andy Reply with quote

Another trick that works well (and is cheap), to keep misfires down on igns with high cyl pressures/retarded timing, is to put std nylon convoluted split loom over the wires if they pass near each other or near grounded parts. Turn up the boost and start getting misfires, wrap 'em first before dropping the plug gaps down.

Pantera EFI wrote:
Hi Andy, good to here from you.

You are in good hands with Shane, he knows how to get the most energy out of ignition systems.
The IGN-1A coil can "hold" 25 AMPS of ignition energy, feed them with large wires.
The spark plug boot needs to seal well, completely to the "steel" of the plug. (with Silicon grease)

I hope you will fit a 60-2 crankshaft Target Wheel for accuracy.

Lance
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Pantera EFI



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:58 am    Post subject: 10 mm "trick" plug wires ??? Reply with quote

You are correct WHEN the plug wire has defect.
You are correct when the plug wire needs heat protection, though a better sleeve material is used.

As a designer of ignition systems/plug wires there are some items, "if it was made larger it is not better".

The coil, smaller is better if required energy can be produced.

The plug wire, small is better if dielectric strength is sufficient.

We produce the Firecore 50 wire at 8.5 mm.
The reason of the 8.5 mm diameter maximum is the chance of "microfissures" is reduced over use of 10mm diameter wire in production.

Best test your wire for HV leaks especially when larger diameters are fitted.

Lance
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