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Find your injector dead-time, in-car

 
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giskard



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:40 pm    Post subject: Find your injector dead-time, in-car Reply with quote

Injector dead time will differ from the manufacturer spec if the "flyback" voltage your ECU applies to the injectors is different than that during the manufacturer's tests.

Here is a method for measuring dead-time in-car.

Procedure:

Idle car while datalogging, and have a means of changing injector electrical pulse width slowly up and down while logging. Car must have a reasonably stable idle at a fairly fixed RPM, and battery voltage must be constant throughout.

Log MAP, AFR, Battery volts, and Injector electrical pulse width, while idling. Slowly raise and lower injector on time (I did it by changing the injector dead time vs. battery voltage, across 3 cells, straddling the battery voltage that I was seeing). Slowly raise and lower it until the RPM starts to drop significantly or the car starts to misfire. I could go from 11:1 to 16.3:1 or so and back. Do this several times, it may take you a few minutes.

Then examine the datalogs. Do an XY plot. Plot MAP divider AFR on the X-axis, then injector on-time on the Y-axis. You can use your log viewer, or MS Excel. Excel has the advantage of having a linear curve fit ("trendline, linear"). The datapoints should form a line. If you project this line to the Y-axis, the intercept is the dead time.

In Excel, do a scatter plot, then add a trendline. Select "linear", and in the options, select "show equation". If your data is clean and has little noise, the Y-intercept will show in the equation. If not, select "Set Intercept", and try different values until the trendline appears to describe the quiet part of the data.
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Flr Power



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

giskard,

You forgot to include the Excel file. lol
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giskard



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted to post the plot, but this forum doesn't have provisions for attaching images, or am I wrong?
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El Verdugo



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

giskard wrote:
I wanted to post the plot, but this forum doesn't have provisions for attaching images, or am I wrong?

You can always go to www.box.net and upload the file to that place and just copy the link it gives you to this thread.
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